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Old 04-24-2009, 04:36 AM   #41
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Like a coleman then? Free hand dicates whats happening?
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Yeah pretty much. Arm and shoulders.
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Next question on one of my 'sticky' slides then. 1h TS pendy. I can do them 180 just fine and dandy, but bringing it back round to regular seems really hard, it just wants to slowly whip round to 180 it seems, any advice?
General advice on this and most other slides- Look in direction of travel, keep shoulders aligned down hill, arms extended but low, lean up hill, drive with both feet throughout, as much commitment is needed coming out of slide as going in.

I only do ts checks with two hands as it is a quality safety move. If you want to do it one handed- leading hand, head and supporting hand are aligned down hill and through middle of board. Head is directly above supporting hand. To exit the slide, wait until body momentum
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Great to hear about the 360s, pictures of your slide jam looked great. Are you bringing anyone up with you to Slide Quest?

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Cheers for the sound advice Mark, that sounds wickad. Will give it a bash next time I jump on my slide board!

For the Slide Quest, there will be me, Mark, Joe, Gary and ,hopefully, Hugo (think you've met him before?) and Rich. So 5 of us mostly confirmed for the moment, Hugo and Rich should be able to put on a good show if they come. Looking foreward to it! Unfortunately our main crew aren't heading down until the Monday, so they're gonna miss the comp, but we'll see what we can do with the advance scouts!
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I managed to get 3 consectutive toeside 3's using the advice from you guys, super stoked! Had a glimmer of getting them smoother, think next session will be the one where I figure it out perfect.

Next question on one of my 'sticky' slides then. 1h TS pendy. I can do them 180 just fine and dandy, but bringing it back round to regular seems really hard, it just wants to slowly whip round to 180 it seems, any advice?
Congrats on landing the 3s!

I do my 1h toeside pendies in a different style than 2h. While 2h toesides are usually really low and your torso is aligned in the same plane as your legs, my 1h toesides are much more like a speedcheck. I place my back hand down and keep my shoulders, face, and torso in line with the fall line. The most significant movement comes from the hip down. I use my back foot to tweak out the deck to around 90 degrees.

Then there's a choice of whether I want to make it a quick, tweaked kind of speedcheck or a more fluid pendulum style motion. For the former, my legs do all the work and it's very snappy -- kick out the back, hold it, and then suck it back under me.

For the latter, I draw out this motion very slightly while also guiding the board (and my lower body) around in a sweeping rotation with my downhill hand acting as a rudder. To prevent it from turning into a 180, make sure to keep facing right down the fall line. If you don't allow your neck to turn beyond this, your upper body will be forced to remain oriented downhill rather than following through for 180 degrees. This torsion also helps you exit the slide very quickly in a snappy motion -- just like in a standup powerslide.

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If you want to do it one handed- leading hand, head and supporting hand are aligned down hill and through middle of board. Head is directly above supporting hand. To exit the slide, wait until body momentum
has caught up with deck and you are nearly above the board then prop back on, reseting to
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Great to hear about the 360s, pic
Snap, beat me to it.

Interesting that you exit these slides by letting your body catch up to the board (instead of the other way around). I've definitely found that it's much easier to teach someone this move using that approach. It's a much smoother style than how I tend to do them. It's all relative though, and they're both very fun.
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Nice one! Cheers! I am full of love for this thread so far, although it seems there's only like 4 of us in here? Are we the only tech sliders left? Is everybody else 'freeriding'? Hahaha

Off to visit the missus' grandparents this weekend, I saw a BRUTALLY steep hill near them last time, should be good for a practice...
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Today I've practicing stalefish powerslides. But I'm having problems keeping balance while grabbing the board. Any advice guys?
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I've been struggling with learning all my hands down slides switch. I think if this could be mastered it would open doors to countless variations. Anyone else stuggling with learning slides switch. I feel like a tool when I'm doing it, but I knwo it'll pay off eventually...
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...I feel like a tool when I'm doing it, but I knwo it'll pay off eventually...
I know this feeling too well. I even choke up when neighbors see pushing switch down the street.
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just got Stalefish Checks yesterday and got shovits. super stoked, sliding ####### rules.
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I need more people to slide with. I've spent the last year and a half just copying videos...I don't know the names of anything though. Heh...
I'm always down to skate. We tear down watchtower every weekend. It's my practice hill for when I get to skate a real hill.

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Today I've practicing stalefish powerslides. But I'm having problems keeping balance while grabbing the board. Any advice guys?
The beautiful thing about stalefish powerslides is that you're really low to the ground when you do them.

Don't be afraid to lean back on these (this will help keep your downhill edge from catching). If you fall back or the board slips out from under you, just put your downhill hand on the ground behind you and you're instantly in a coleman/fh layback. Then either bring it around 180 or pendy back into your regular stance.
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sooooooooo, ive been getting in to tech sliding the past 2 weeks. so far ive learned, toeside & heelside pendies, ts and hs 360s, surrender to 360, check slides (fs only though) and 180 powerslides in all directions ( i could make them into 360s if i did it more smoothly). and today i spent 2 hours trying to get layback slide, which im having trouble with, because i always overrotate and the board goes 180 instead of just 90 degrees. anywhoooooooooooooo i was wondering about the earthwing crewzer, cuz id like to incorporate street into my sliding. but people are saying the crewzer isnt a good technical slide board. what qualifies a technical slide board. it looks great to me...
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Congrats on making such rapid progress! That's a lot of moves for two weeks of practice.

For the layback, try throwing your downhill hand straight up in the air, in line with your uphill hand (which is on the ground). This keeps your shoulders cocked in (or close to) your regular orientation, which will make it harder for your body to follow through in a 180. Another thing that helps is to make sure your front foot keeps pushing through the slide. If you relax it too much, your nose will lag backwards and you might swing into a 180 accidentally. When you're ready to exit the slide, relax your back leg, allowing it to retract back underneath you. Keep outward pressure on your front leg so it rotates into the correct position, get back on your board with your weight centered, and ride away.

The Crewzer is 38", which is on the long side for "strictly technical" sliding, but if you're okay with chucking around the extra beef, I say go for it. Tech sliding, as with many other disciplines, isn't about what you're riding -- it's about how you ride it. All the tricks you can do on a shorter slider are still possible on longer boards (though rotations might be harder with the extra length). Also keep in mind that the Crewzer also probably won't be as easy to do street tricks on, but again -- practice makes perfect on anything.
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Congrats on making such rapid progress! That's a lot of moves for two weeks of practice.

For the layback, try throwing your downhill hand straight up in the air, in line with your uphill hand (which is on the ground). This keeps your shoulders cocked in (or close to) your regular orientation, which will make it harder for your body to follow through in a 180. Another thing that helps is to make sure your front foot keeps pushing through the slide. If you relax it too much, your nose will lag backwards and you might swing into a 180 accidentally. When you're ready to exit the slide, relax your back leg, allowing it to retract back underneath you. Keep outward pressure on your front leg so it rotates into the correct position, get back on your board with your weight centered, and ride away.

The Crewzer is 38", which is on the long side for "strictly technical" sliding, but if you're okay with chucking around the extra beef, I say go for it. Tech sliding, as with many other disciplines, isn't about what you're riding -- it's about how you ride it. All the tricks you can do on a shorter slider are still possible on longer boards (though rotations might be harder with the extra length). Also keep in mind that the Crewzer also probably won't be as easy to do street tricks on, but again -- practice makes perfect on anything.

thanks man that was helpful! so basically i point my free arm straight up in the air aligned with my arm held on the ground?
ive been learning all my tricks on a 42 inch board, so i dont think 38 would be too big
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sooooooooo, ive been getting in to tech sliding the past 2 weeks. so far ive learned, toeside & heelside pendies, ts and hs 360s, surrender to 360, check slides (fs only though) and 180 powerslides in all directions ( i could make them into 360s if i did it more smoothly). and today i spent 2 hours trying to get layback slide, which im having trouble with, because i always overrotate and the board goes 180 instead of just 90 degrees. anywhoooooooooooooo i was wondering about the earthwing crewzer, cuz id like to incorporate street into my sliding. but people are saying the crewzer isnt a good technical slide board. what qualifies a technical slide board. it looks great to me...
The Crewzer is big in a tough way. The longer wheel base doesn't allow for quick turns. (unlass you are seven feet tall) Look towards the 34.5 drifter if you want a longer slide deck. I ride an Executioner (33"x 9") and I'm 6'4" at 190 lbs.

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The Crewzer is big in a tough way. The longer wheel base doesn't allow for quick turns. (unlass you are seven feet tall) Look towards the 34.5 drifter if you want a longer slide deck. I ride an Executioner (33"x 9") and I'm 6'4" at 190 lbs.

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