Cyber Slalom Times

[silversurfer]

what is "cyber"

It's like phone sex, but on your computer instead of the phone.

The times are the time to "finish".

I've never tried it.

[roastbeef540]

NEW TIME = 9.577 BOO PHUCKIN YAA

[Joe & Nick]

Do all you guys run the course both ways and then average the times, like you're supposed to?

That's what I want to know.

If we have a cyber contest and you 9.981 Jokers show up with 11.5's when we swap the tape strips and run the other way....

let's just say I'll give you such a pinch and leave it at that.

Joe

[Rustyfriend]

i tried to run both but one felt mentally different for some reason.

i can assure you though the ground was absolutely flat. and the direction i was running was against the wind.

even though i got a 9.97, that was with full energy, 5 minuntes later my best would be like 10.6

[roastbeef540]

we run ours in a parking garage, so its pretty flat, either way...

[roastbeef540]

Do all you guys run the course both ways and then average the times, like you're supposed to?

That's what I want to know.

If we have a cyber contest and you 9.981 Jokers show up with 11.5's when we swap the tape strips and run the other way....

let's just say I'll give you such a pinch and leave it at that.

Joe

i'd be down to participate in a cyber contest!!!!

[Sensei]

My new time: 10.397

I wanted to see if my GS board was faster. It was. By a whole lot.

In all honestly, I think a cyber contest would be kinda boring. I dig using cyber for equipment comparisions, and its fun to try and beat my last time, but I'd really have to consider driving anywhere over a half hour away just to run cyber.

[crawdad62]

Do all you guys run the course both ways and then average the times, like you're supposed to?

That's what I want to know.

If we have a cyber contest and you 9.981 Jokers show up with 11.5's when we swap the tape strips and run the other way....

let's just say I'll give you such a pinch and leave it at that.

Joe

Wow that's pretty harsh. Yeah I think I've read through the rules well enough to know you're supposed to average the times both ways (especially since it's extremely hard to find an area flat enough not to warrant it).

I think if you check on NCDSA cyber page my time isn't as fast as a single pass that I stated here (10.15 there) and I'll only post "official" stuff there and believe me it's on the up and up.

[Joe & Nick]

Wow that's pretty harsh.

Yep, I'm a mean pincher.

But if you can back up those times in person you don't have to worry, right?

I was directing this at the NJ/NY downhill in a huricane crowd, not the flat midwesterners. Careful though. You never know when you are going to get cyber-audited.

Joe
Cyber Time 1.4 sec in an El Camino

[Sensei]

In all honesty, after finding a nice hill spot to setup cones on, I find cyber pretty boring now. It kinda feels like the exercise bike of slalom to me.
It did help me learn how to pump though, and like I said, is a good comparison tool for equipment since the course never changes. But unless I ever set a scorching fast time, I don't think I'm even going to change my time over at NCDSA.

We have a 36 cone course set at 5 and a half feet on center next to the cyber course now, and I find that alot more fun if were stuck in the garage because of rain. But even that's like running wind sprints after awhile.

[Reggie]

Do all you guys run the course both ways and then average the times, like you're supposed to?

That's what I want to know.

If we have a cyber contest and you 9.981 Jokers show up with 11.5's when we swap the tape strips and run the other way....

let's just say I'll give you such a pinch and leave it at that.

Joe

. Here we do it both ways but the times are pratically the same so we do not average. Anyway it's sure flat, it's an iceskating rink. The only thing that can influence is wind and when it's windy, we dont take times.

Like Sensei, since we can run hills (snow is almost melt) we do not cyber anymore. It's fun in the begining of the season, but it gets boring quickly.

[crawdad62]

I kinda agree Sensei. Cyber isn't the most glamorous thing to do. After an hour or so I'm ready to set a different course. But I think it's pretty neat that there's a way to gauge how you're progressing. Not to mention how you're progressing with a guy in New Jersey or Houston or Seattle.

It's not the end all be all slalom course but I like it. Especially being out here running by myself. Gives me something to shoot for.

[roastbeef540]

Especially being out here running by myself. Gives me something to shoot for.

thats what keeps me into it, there is always a way to better your time, you just have to work for it... 8)

[Fat Bastard]

what is "cyber"

It's like phone sex, but on your computer instead of the phone.

The times are the time to "finish".

I've never tried it.

hahaha

Anybody have a real answer?

[Directive0]

http://www.ncdsa.com/cyber_slalom.asp

[rawls]

I just recently got the slalom bug (tranny since 77) and the cyber was a neat thing to do because of the direct comparison with other riders. The rules say to average both ways to account for terrain or slight grades. My favorite place to run the course has a slight grade to it. I swear that my average time ion this slight grade is slower than when I run it on true flat course (both directions). Have you guys seen similar responses from course to course.

Tranny/roundwall is my thing, but the slalom try-out has been nothing but a blast. I can ride while my wife and kids walk and bike and stay right with them. On a regular board, you have to push-push-carve-tic/tac-etc. On the slalom you just carve and pump even at slow speeds. And the board geometry and feel is so different that swapping back and forth is a not much of an issue. I did not want to dive in fullbore, so I went the used right, and have not been dissappointed. The last time I was on a purpose built slalom board was in the FFhester/roadrider days.

[silversurfer]

what is "cyber"

It's like phone sex, but on your computer instead of the phone.
The times are the time to "finish".
I've never tried it.

hahaha
Anybody have a real answer?

Sorry about that.
I forgot that I wrote that, or was that a funny misquote?


Sensei I don't think you'd drive somewhere just to cyber, but it could
be included as a side event at a race.
Just - as Joe said - to audit times to see who's able to recreate their posted times. Not that anybody would like, but if you can't repeat your
best times then your not really that fast. You just had an unconsious
run that you can't duplicate.

It might not be that fun but it's a challenge and another way to guage slalom profiecency (sp?).

I think there should be a 'documented cyber' category and an 'undocumented' category.

I'm not saying anybody would cheat, but the differences in timing method and accuracy could make comparing undocumented times....problematic.

[crawdad62]

My favorite place to run the course has a slight grade to it. I swear that my average time ion this slight grade is slower than when I run it on true flat course (both directions). Have you guys seen similar responses from course to course.

Yeah somewhat. I have two places I run that are "relatively" flat. Well actually one is flat with a poorer surface and the other is smoother but has a slight incline.

I actually seem to run as fast if not faster on the perfectly flat course. Not sure why. Especially given the surface. It's not that it's a rough surface but it's a parking lot that's been "sealed" and it's somewhat slick. I have to be on guard for the back end going away.

[pavedwave]

My favorite place to run the course has a slight grade to it. I swear that my average time ion this slight grade is slower than when I run it on true flat course (both directions). Have you guys seen similar responses from course to course.

Grade and surface (or wheel duro) can make huge differences, esp. once you're down to tracking tenths and hundreths of a second improvements. In cyber, the only way to keep it real-time is keep it flat (averaging). You should be able to run any course in both directions, just a matter of finding sufficient run-out on both ends. I had one course I thought was perfect, until I got faster, and could no longer make the 90 degree turn before slamming into the concrete wall at the end!!

Considering the laws of physics, the only things I can think that might be making a downgrade course slower than a flat for you would be 1. surface is much worse on the downgrade than on your flat course, 2. your downgrade is always against the wind (not so likely) 3. your pumping is actually more efficient on flats or upgrades (even less likely)

[jeffb]

I have two places I run that are "relatively" flat. Well actually one is flat with a poorer surface and the other is smoother but has a slight incline.

I actually seem to run as fast if not faster on the perfectly flat course. Not sure why. Especially given the surface. It's not that it's a rough surface but it's a parking lot that's been "sealed" and it's somewhat slick. I have to be on guard for the back end going away.

Has there ever been a definition of "flat" and acceptable ways of determining it? Slope can be measured pretty easily with a laser level a stick and a tape measure but does it need to be 0 rise over the length of the course or is say a .5cm rise over the length of the course "flat"? An absolutely dead flat area is pretty rare unless you're in a hockey rink with no ice. Even then....

After being on tour last winter working in big sports arenas and running cones on a lot of flat, very slick surface I'm convinced you accelerate MUCH faster even if the slide-out factor is higher. A good run on slick pavement is gonna be fast.