so, buttboarding?

[bucksaw87]

well, best i can tell is that this board is 100% IGSA legal for a classic luge/buttboard. 48" long, 10" wide, 70mm wheels, randal 180 trucks.

i'm looking for a decent bushing setup, cuz i have NO idea where to begin...right now, i got yellow bones hardcores up front, and orange tracker superball barrels out back. do i want stiff or loose or what? also, should i move the trucks around at all to get my weight more centered? finally, got any miscellaneous advice for a noob like me?

[nicotine]

HAE Classic Luge / Buttboard Construction Guidelines Page

Read that for a lot more ideas on construction and setup. As for bushings I would go with JimZ bushings.

[Crappysurfer2]

how about you just be a man and speedboard?

[neuros]

Originally Posted by Crappysurfer2

how about you just be a man and speedboard?

because, face it, it's too slow.
what's the wheelbase on that board? you may want to change it, depending. I myself like something around 29"/30" for BB but iirc darren lott recommends more

[Crappysurfer2]

too slow isnt true, it depends on the run, certain runs luge will go faster and vice versa. no offense but butt boarding and luge require a lot less skill and it isnt as fun

[green]

It doesnt require less skill, It requires a whole different range of skills. You dont have to be stable the same way as you would doing standup. Its a whole different way of riding. And it is way more fun sometimes.

[SteveC]

IMO the reason luge/buttboard is ever slower is you can't kick it off under IGSA rules.

You want 60% of your weight on the front and 40% on the back.
Depending on the camber/rocker, I'd seriously consider riding that board backwards.
You want the widest part under your backside anyway.

If you kick start your board and sit down you'll find it's damn fast compared to anything.
The skills and the lines of what's fast and what's technical are different, not necessarily lower.
It's easier to survive runs sitting down, sure. But that doesn't mean you can't do it with skill and faster than other buttboarders, which is the only thing it should be compared to anyway.

as for 'being a man' well, the whole point is to have fun, not impress the males of this forum...

[mksuen]

I say try to leave an 8" or so nose and around a 34" wheelbase.

I see you finally found a use for that board you never could get rid of lol

[TheEskimoMan891]

Originally Posted by Crappysurfer2

how about you just be a man and speedboard?

Dude, I've heard this so many times.
I mostly do downhill and stuff
but sometimes, it's just not fastest enough on our nearby steeps.

Buttboarding is fun everynow and then

[bucksaw87]

okay, it's got a 29" wheelbase. from what i gather, buttboarding is basically a pretty free thing, right? there is no "best setup" or whatever. nico said to use jimz for bushings, but that's about it? right now i got yellow khiro bitch/hourglass out back and bennett bottom/blue bones hardcore top out front. okay coolz i'll give this puppy a shot next time i'm out

oh and cs2, my speedboard is in the process of being painted

[Darren]

Something interesting I noticed at Hot Heels was that many of the locals (Germans usually) placed the back trucks all the way at the end of the kicktail on a board like that. Essentially it gave them the drop that many people try to adopt from street luge.

The Lott Classic is a flat deck and has the back trucks at the very back of a 48" board. The wheelbase is 32" which leaves some of the nose to help support your legs. You place your index fingers about 4" behind the front axle. That's the secret to the Lott Classic weight balance. You may need to adjust slightly to accommodate a kicktail.

Hot Heels purists thought the Lott Classic design was a cheat, characterizing it as 16" in front of what could have been a 32" deck. One claimed it was a "mini luge for babies" because of the resulting leg support. The truth is the design began with a 48" standup deck and the front trucks kept moving backward until the proper handling balance was achieved.

[chrismcb]

Not a whole to add to what Mr Buttboarding said.
BUT IGSA does have a minimum height rule. I like Darren's suggestion of moving the rear truck back under the kicktail, but beware of this minimum height. And of course you'll want to move the front trucks back as well.

For the most part you want your butt on or near your front truck (usually when I sit down, I look between my legs to see the four bolts holding the truck on) Hard to do when you are at the extreme front of the board (but not impossible)

As far as standup vs laydown. For me its way more fun, cause I wouldn't last more than about 10 seconds standing up going downhill (ask the guys who saw me almost die in Sweden) To each their own.

[bucksaw87]

Originally Posted by Darren

Something interesting I noticed at Hot Heels was that many of the locals (Germans usually) placed the back trucks all the way at the end of the kicktail on a board like that. Essentially it gave them the drop that many people try to adopt from street luge.

The Lott Classic is a flat deck and has the back trucks at the very back of a 48" board. The wheelbase is 32" which leaves some of the nose to help support your legs. You place your index fingers about 4" behind the front axle. That's the secret to the Lott Classic weight balance. You may need to adjust slightly to accommodate a kicktail.

Hot Heels purists thought the Lott Classic design was a cheat, characterizing it as 16" in front of what could have been a 32" deck. One claimed it was a "mini luge for babies" because of the resulting leg support. The truth is the design began with a 48" standup deck and the front trucks kept moving backward until the proper handling balance was achieved.

from the man himself!
thanks dude, i'll have to move the trucks around and try it that way then!