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Old 11-02-2008, 04:28 PM   #1
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so i want to get into luge. how easy is it to fall? and i dont mean hitting something. i mean like wobbles and such? what can cause a fall and how bad can it hurt?
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Default Re: how easy is it to fall off a luge?

you don't really fall off, but you can get thrown.... and then roll...
wobbles exist, not so much as in standup and like always it's a peace of mind thing, too-loose trucks at wicked speed can do it too.
the worst injury i have from being wob'd off at 60mph is a tear in my pinky.
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you don't really fall off, but you can get thrown.... and then roll...
wobbles exist, not so much as in standup and like always it's a peace of mind thing, too-loose trucks at wicked speed can do it too.
the worst injury i have from being wob'd off at 60mph is a tear in my pinky.

It is pretty hard to fall off a luge. You can get wobs, and if you don't control them, it can flip you. But chances are you will wreck while turning more often than wobbing out. Generally you can start to slow down when you get the wobs, and you can actually withstand some pretty serious wobs.


How bad can it hurt? I dunno, but you can break bones if you hit something. Just start slow and take it easy. Start with tight trucks, and slowly loosen them. If you start to wob, slow down, and calm down. Wobs generally occur because you have your body too stiff.
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never luged, but i imagine the lack of vertical drop when falling would reduce injury a lot.
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Default Re: how easy is it to fall off a luge?

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. A hell of a lot less leverage during a fall. Basically falling off a luge is kind of like what happens to a skateboarder after he hits the ground, heh.
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never luged, but i imagine the lack of vertical drop when falling would reduce injury a lot.
Absolutely not. The actual falling off of a speedboard isn't what causes the most injuries and/or pain. It's thinks like road rash, flipping around, crashing into stuff that are going to be where all of the bad things come from.
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Absolutely not. The actual falling off of a speedboard isn't what causes the most injuries and/or pain. It's thinks like road rash, flipping around, crashing into stuff that are going to be where all of the bad things come from.
im callin shenanigans on that claim. if you fall at an awkward angle you can definitely screw something. i.e. my broken scaffoid bone this summer.

in the end tho, its all relative. you cant say that injuries just come from only such & such cause and disregard others. its a whole plethora of causes/events/reactions that determine what happens in a fall. and i would go so far as to say that good and bad luck play the biggest roles.
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Default Re: how easy is it to fall off a luge?

Both standup and lugers race at speeds of 50-70 mph. At this speed, hitting anything can break bones. BUT in my experience a common standup injury is a dislocated shoulder (broken wrists might be next) This comes from extending your hands as you fall. The injury occurs from falling off the board and hitting the ground.

Lugers on the other hand tend to break legs when they hit something. They generally don't get hurt falling off the board (assuming they are wearing protection against rashes)
Unfortunately luge injuries are usually worse than standup injuries. While I think more standup guys get injured, their injuries aren't as servere.
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well i imagine its like... if you get injured on a luge, its worse than on a standup setup... but its less common.
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video of matt thiede's crash i believe at bonelli a few years ago...
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Default Re: how easy is it to fall off a luge?

The biggest problem is, that people try to break, till the end.
In such a situation, both feet are on the ground and when you contact the "obstacle", you ride with the rest-speed and the weight of your luge and your own body into your ankle. Thats exactly what happened to Matt and Câue and to other people.
One solution to that problem is to lift your feet, before you hit the hay. Throw them in the air and impact with your butt or the back of the thighs.
Its also not the perfect solution for a crash, because in this case, you can get serious spine injuries or break your thigh bone, but still less prone for a injury than not lifting your feet of the ground.
To minimize this, roll yourself of the luge and take your luge as a shield. This helped me once at a freeride without fences, when I realized, that I will hit a pole. I rolled of the luge, slid on my leather and hit that pole with my luge as a shield. The luge spun over and fell down a 5meter scarp (without me).

To protect yourself, make sure, that your luge is safe and do have a nice seat pan, where you can slip over, without to get caught on a open tube or your handles or anything else. Many people do not take this serious, but sooner or later anybody will crash.


Common situation:
Training at a race. Wet conditions and test of some new wheels.
When I entered this hairpin bend, i just didn't turn, but slid. Speed is still something around 60kph. In dry conditions, you have 100kph+ before that turn and you barely break there, so it's a fast hairpin.
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Here i checked the situation, if nobody else is following me and possibly crash into my side.
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A little struggling
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and back on the deck. Here I still try to break to reduce speed, because there were already 4 meter left.
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before that picture were shot, I lifted my feet and made me mental ready for the impact and hit the hay with my butt
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I rolled the hay bale out of my way and slid over it. I think that i already had 50+ kph left.
Nothing really happened there, except that I had a few days pains in my hands, because i was holding my handles during that crash.
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Back to the original question:
When you get wobbles, put both feet on the ground and break as hard as possible.
Wear full leathers or at least a leather jacket and a helmet.
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well i imagine its like... if you get injured on a luge, its worse than on a standup setup... but its less common.
That is where your skills come into play.
One difference is that if you get hit on a luge you might not crash, but if you get hit on a skateboard chances are you are going down.

Lang made some really good points. Another thing is to never give up. I've seen a lot of people wreck on a luge, because they gave up about half way through the turn, even though they had plenty of time to make the turn.
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so i want to get into luge. how easy is it to fall? and i dont mean hitting something. i mean like wobbles and such? what can cause a fall and how bad can it hurt?
I hope, that I didn't scare you off with my long post.
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I hope, that I didn't scare you off with my long post.
haha. i appreciate your help. those pics were great. especially at showing the lifting of the legs thing. that was a very useful post.
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Default Re: how easy is it to fall off a luge?

it matters,
are you luging ona actual luge board or my friends hyper carve?
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it matters,
are you luging ona actual luge board or my friends hyper carve?
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haha. i am gonna use an actual luge. i have tried on my longboard and i nearly fell.
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last week my buddy bailed long boarding at 35 mph... Broke his wrist and elbow from hitting the ground...
This only happened because he didn't know how to fall..
you dont have to be going too fast to get hurt.
If you've done very much snowboarding that is usually really good practice for falling.

don't extend your arms..
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last week my buddy bailed long boarding at 35 mph... Broke his wrist and elbow from hitting the ground...
This only happened because he didn't know how to fall..
you dont have to be going too fast to get hurt.
If you've done very much snowboarding that is usually really good practice for falling.

don't extend your arms..
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I 100% agree that you don't have to be going fast to get hurt.
but "tuck and roll" is terrible advice, well - it's certainly too general.

If you're going slow, sure.
Once you've got some reasonable speed happening you're way better off sliding - rolling will smash everything...
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ok i can understand that..
guess ive never bailed going more than 30 or so..
theres only a couple hills ive hit taking me to 50mph. Ive never fallen on them.. but the guy who got me into this has..
said he was doing flips and came out with only road rash.
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the worst injury i have from being wob'd off at 60mph is a tear in my pinky.
Ha! i miss that hill!
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