What "specifically" is so different from a skateboard than a slide deck?

**lilyunsta** · 11-18-2009 10:08 PM

I'm just curious I've seen sliders using regular skateboards and are they much of a difference than a slide deck? What exactly is a slide deck, isn't it the same thing as a getting a regular skateboard, put shitty trucks, ramp wheels and ya?

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**D3vO** · 11-18-2009 10:13 PM

Some people slide with regular street decks some don't. Usually a 'slide deck' will be a few inches longer and wider than a shortboard while still maintaining the general dual kicktail shape. Along with the increased width of the board people like to slide with wider trucks....personally I just felt sketchy as hell going down a hill trying to pick up tons of speed for tech sliding on a street deck, much more comfortable with something more slide specific.

**WillJ** · 11-18-2009 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by lilyunsta

same thing as a getting a regular skateboard, put shitty trucks, ramp wheels and ya?

'regular' skateboard - sure

shitty trucks & 'ramp' wheels = no

most 'ramp' wheels are in the 95-97a range

99a street/slide wheels are much more preferable

**ub6ib9** · 11-18-2009 10:47 PM

Street skateboard= mellow tail kick for quick pop and a steep nose for catching front foot/ fliping
slide decks= both kicks steep for deep pockets and for being able to lift up the nose or tail easily while ur feet are in the pockets.

Concave is usually a little deeper too, but there are about 100,000,000 different street decks with all different concaves.

**AGENT WD-40** · 11-19-2009 08:52 AM

Just get a board you are comfortable going fast on and one that you can lock your feet into. You dont even necessarily need a kick nose/tail or concave to slide, however it sure helps on the more technical slides. Like WillJ said, 99a wheels are the only way to go for sliding. Also, a wheel with a little wider contact patch will help prevent flatspots a little more than a narrow wheel.

**speshlspeclsteak** · 11-19-2009 09:43 AM

a good hardwheel slide deck is longitudinally stiff with some tortional flex to keep 4 wheels on the ground

**Wells** · 11-19-2009 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by ub6ib9

Street skateboard= mellow tail kick for quick pop and a steep nose for catching front foot/ fliping
slide decks= both kicks steep for deep pockets and for being able to lift up the nose or tail easily while ur feet are in the pockets.

Concave is usually a little deeper too, but there are about 100,000,000 different street decks with all different concaves.

What this guy said. Most slide decks these days also have a sharp top edge. Some have concave through the kicks.

**stringtheory** · 11-19-2009 09:46 AM

A lot of people also prefer to slide on a deck that's 35" or longer, which is longer than a typical street deck.

**lilyunsta** · 11-19-2009 08:30 PM

hmm I've used a regular skateboard deck with ramp wheels and it felt so freaking sketchy. The max speed I could pick up was about 10mph and during that time my feet felt the worst vibration ever under smooth pavement. After about 20 minutes of trying to slide with a regular skate deck my feet were numb and I was seriously unsatisfied. That's why I'm trying to make a slide deck out of a dervish lol.

**emersonpalmer** · 11-19-2009 09:44 PM

are you sure you folks havent gotten into the glue, and then in a dazzled and confused state thought it was okay for companys to charge a higher cost for "slide decks"

these are ever so slightly retooled pool boards, i mean heck, creature produces big boards and thats what ive been sliding on, they're cheap and at the rate youll destroy them with razor tail or high siding the board and chipping the crap out of the rails.

why would you pay more for something that is going to need replacing soon enough anyway?

all you need is a good pool deck, some indy 169's or 215's depending on the width of the deck, and some cheap ass powell ratbones, better than any slide wheel ive tried IMO

**WillJ** · 11-19-2009 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by emersonpalmer

why would you pay more for something that is going to need replacing soon enough anyway?

all you need is a good pool deck, some indy 169's or 215's depending on the width of the deck, and some cheap ass powell ratbones, better than any slide wheel ive tried IMO

1. who is charging more than "standard" for 'slide' decks?

2. Rat bones are seriously lacking slide wheels when compared to SlideA's & Sergios

**Wells** · 11-20-2009 01:51 AM

Originally Posted by lilyunsta

hmm I've used a regular skateboard deck with ramp wheels and it felt so freaking sketchy. The max speed I could pick up was about 10mph and during that time my feet felt the worst vibration ever under smooth pavement. After about 20 minutes of trying to slide with a regular skate deck my feet were numb and I was seriously unsatisfied. That's why I'm trying to make a slide deck out of a dervish lol.

You are dumb.

Yes, a slide deck is a slightly different pool type shape. But why pay for a creature pool board that's just a slightly retooled $10 Chinese street deck?

**stringtheory** · 11-20-2009 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by emersonpalmer

are you sure you folks havent gotten into the glue, and then in a dazzled and confused state thought it was okay for companys to charge a higher cost for "slide decks"....

It's not like some one is taking a $20 shop deck and relabeling it "slide" and charging more. All the dedicated slide decks I know of were designed for sliding. They're different in their shape, length, width and especially lay up. They are made in smaller batches, in some cases use composites, all things that can contribute to cost.

If you're happy sliding on a street deck or whatever that's cool. But don't go telling other people they're sniffing glue just because you don't know or understand the difference.

**jmasta** · 11-22-2009 05:18 AM

Originally Posted by lilyunsta

I'm just curious I've seen sliders using regular skateboards and are they much of a difference than a slide deck? What exactly is a slide deck, isn't it the same thing as a getting a regular skateboard, put shitty trucks, ramp wheels and ya?

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like what most have said, the biggest difference is length and width

you certainly can slide on your standard trick deck, but it won't be comfortable for technical hands down slides. you really want a board that is long enough to accommodate your feet + entire back leg pressed against the board

like so:

**Terrorsathan** · 11-22-2009 05:23 AM

my "tech slide" deck is actually a huge mini logo Popsicle 8.5x32.5 Works damn good for me..

**meanis** · 12-06-2009 06:30 AM

its all personal, i slide a 8.75 for years, recently i got a guy who does custom decks to build me a tapered 9.5-9.0 oldschool shape with a touch more in the wheel base then my 8.75 vert board and a slightly less stepped concave and its really nice for sliding, switch checkslides are not great on it and nose blunts are fairly hard but its defs what a slide deck should be based on, the tapered bulge on the front food helps you pivot your body around and lock your front foot in, its also good for either locking that foot on or being able to take it on and off easily when doing blunts which make things nice, i would reccomend a shape like this, i will post pics tomorrow but its defs the best slide board shape i have ridden, i wouldnt slide my old vert board again. also try some randal 180s for trucks

**FODMURDER** · 12-16-2009 06:33 AM

I use the BE40 from Gravity to slide. Its perfect for it . Just the right length , just the right shallow but fat tail, nice steep concave in the middle section and a nice big mellow nose. Ive slid on other decks but nothing comes close for me. It was only £70 for the deck. Worth every penny. Its smashed into countless curbs and walls and no sign of de-lam yet. Properly made! Pay the extra and get something that will take a bashing. Get sliding dude.

**arubadub** · 12-17-2009 09:05 AM

I'm planning to get a slide deck, I have an old school powell classic and a longer than usual generic (no brand) popsicle which I use now. The powell classic is a little too short but a great slide deck, and the "longer popsicle" needs to be wider.

Powell classic Ripper - Specifications
* Length: 31.75"
* Width: 10.0"
* Nose: 5.125"
* Tail: 6.875"
* Wheelbase: 15.5

Now I'm in between the Gravity BE40 which looks solid and the Lush Globe Slide.
The Lush is shorter, but wider, and the BE is longer but thinner. Did anyone try the Lush Globe slide?

The BE is more available to me though. I'm thinking RII 150's and Abec11 strikers or NoSkools. What do you think?

**Cann0n** · 12-17-2009 09:26 AM

Yea can slide any skateboard. I don't care for shortboards. I'm tall with big feet. Though, contour makes it easier to slide.

**arubadub** · 12-17-2009 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by Cann0n

Yea can slide any skateboard. I don't care for shortboards. I'm tall with big feet. Though, contour makes it easier to slide.

Yup, I slide anything too, I dont own any shortboards anymore either, just the old school deck because I have big feet, it's great to get out and ollie, grind, wallride and still slide. Loving it.