What's the best slide puck material???

[Edison]

Ultra High Molecular Weight Plastic

I thought it was Ultra High Molecular Weight Polyethylene?

[Wells]

I thought it was Ultra High Molecular Weight Polyethylene?

Correct! 234567890

[tjh]

thank you captain planet.
dont be a meany jshalvorsen!

[LBVT]

how much do quality slide gloves cost? or how much does it cost to make your own, and what do you need to do it?

i've heard that corian was the way to go but idk.

[bombsies]

how much do quality slide gloves cost? or how much does it cost to make your own, and what do you need to do it?

i've heard that corian was the way to go but idk.

LBVT i got you right here. http://www.silverfishlongboarding.com/forum/search.php

[Wells]

Quality slide gloves will run you between forty (loaded) and one hundred and twenty dollars (all beef timeship).

Making gloves is much cheaper if you use the right stuff. Corian can be had for free and work gloves aren't particularly expensive. Glue and velcro aren't particularly pricey.

I personally like Delrin for pucks (it's what's on the gravity gloves). You can get a pretty good size piece of it on eBay for a reasonable price (I got a 5/8x4 1/2x24 slab of it--enough for about 3 full sets of pucks-- for $25 shipped).

[big_loaf]

Ultra High Molecular Weight Plastic

don't help him, he must learn to read and search!!



*edit* oh, and i like my beginner style cutting board gloves for now.....about those hockey pucks though, are you serious or just ######' around?

[LBVT]

k thanks bombsies and wells.

[capn]

UHMW is short for Ultra High Molecular Weight.

I have not used corian or oil based uhmw yet. However I have used many types of poloyethelene (cutting board), polycarbonate or if you prefer to call it by its name brand name - Lexan (like in race car windows and rear deck lids), wood, og French style mix of gravel and road epoxy, delrin, and UHMW.

I have spent some time speaking with raw material wholesalers and maufacturers and learned this.

UHMW will out last all materials listed above, It is the slickest of what i have tried and is far cheaper in the long run if you count time wasted on constantly remaking or reattaching gloves and pucks. I can make a set in less than 15 minutes if i have the proper tools (10-12 minutes is waiting for the contact cement to set up)

Here are some tips from the plastic experts:

Stay away from Black plastic, it is the remenants of the clean plastic. Remenants are grouped together, remelted, and a black dye is added to cover up imperfections. It is slightly cheaper.

I take safety very seriously and my slide gloves are more important to me than my helmet. You dont save much over the seconds so why bother?

If you go to a plastic wholesaler in your community they will likely have remenants for a buck or two that will be just about puck size or bigger.

Crappysurfer 2 mentioned you can pick up corian samples for free from home depot, so you should never be without plastic. keep a back up set or some extra contact cement handy in case a puck comes off.

Sometimes a faster wearing material can come in handy, since it tends to slow you down faster. Such as polyethelene and the og euro style. this is practical for high speed drifting applications where you must slow down a lot to make a corner.

For freestyle slide gloves I run extra thick pucks and thinner ones for racing.

I've also played with angled pucks that are fatter on the palm since i personally put the majority of my weight on the bottom of the palm.



UHMW isnt that much more expensive than other materials. In fact, its cheap. Skate companies won't likely use it in their slide gloves for awhile for good reason. It will likely out last the gloves. If you have pucks that wear out really quick, then its good business to to sell replacement pucks.

think about it.

I just wanted to add that UHMW is almost always referred to polyethylenes, UHMW shouldn't be used without a material suffix. The difference between the PE groups are the amount of molecules in their chains. Natural low density PE is very very soft and and has a good friction coefficient; their chains are not linked together very well. High density PE groups as the name suggests have more molecules in their groups usually called a "branched group" these are harder than natural PE and have better impact resistance and abrasion resistance. and Ultra High Molecular Weight polyethylene
is the most dense PE group with their chains being cross linked and very tightly packed. This lends itself very low friction coefficient amazing abrasion resistance and better chemical resistance. Thats one of the reasons that UHMWPE is used in hip replacements as a friction matrix.

Also Corian, the Dupont trade name, is actually an acrylic with a metal filler, aluminum oxide I believe. this gives it great abrasion resistance but a somewhat higher cost than UHMWPE. Plexiglas is also acrylic based.

Lexan is a Dupont brand name, there are many different suppliers of Polycarbonate all which have varying levels of fillers, plasticizes, and modifiers to make it perform as specified. Polycarbonate is also the most heat resistant of the plastics talked about here, with a melting point around 300 C, as a comparison Acrylic has a melting point around 230 C and PE groups around 190 C.

OK, I am done on my chemical rant.

[Meltzy]

Corian is teh secks!!!
seriously it slides like ice and it wears slow for me, but it also depends on the rider, my friend will go through 2 sets before i need to change my first.

[pchewn]

Your left-over Delrin (Acetal, POM) material makes a great fire-starter for campfires. Our safety engineer used to call it "polymerized gasoline".

Light some on fire and you'll see what I mean. (Small chunk, outdoors of course.)

[jhelm007]

I like cutting board. one 2.99 Target cutting board makes ~3 sets of pucks. who cares how it wears. I also recently got a linoleum floor tile which makes good thumb pucks (I'm weird for liking thin thumb pucks I know, but they stay out of the way better).

[swisschez]

I like cutting board. one 2.99 Target cutting board makes ~3 sets of pucks. who cares how it wears. I also recently got a linoleum floor tile which makes good thumb pucks (I'm weird for liking thin thumb pucks I know, but they stay out of the way better).

u may like it for awhile but just wait til u get ur hands on somethin better. my friend and i had gone through 3 twelve by twelve cutting boards and that lasted us bout 2 months. i got a pair of UHMW pucks and i have hardly seen any wear over bout a month now.

[neuros]

I have a set of cutting board pucks that's lasted me since mid-June. I also have a pair of delrin pucks which I just started using about a month ago and I'm halfway through them.
I think when it comes to buying cutting board it's in your selection of plastic that lies how nice or how shitty they'll be... I prefer mine to delrin and corian any day.

[capn]

Your left-over Delrin (Acetal, POM) material makes a great fire-starter for campfires. Our safety engineer used to call it "polymerized gasoline".

Light some on fire and you'll see what I mean. (Small chunk, outdoors of course.)

Delrin is actually a very volatile plastic, when processing the material it is not uncommon to use full face masks to protect oneself from the gases that it puts off. If memory serves it has the same effect of formaldehyde.

[Deadaimer]

im looking into getting some uhmw myself, im just hoping that its easy to cut

[capn]

im looking into getting some uhmw myself, im just hoping that its easy to cut

Band saw or a hack saw with big teeth will cut it pretty easy.

[Deadaimer]

thanks, i'll try that out when i get it

Band saw or a hack saw with big teeth will cut it pretty easy.

[Ian]

As far as trick sliding goes, I haven't found anything that slides better than delrin. Next in line is UHMW which I use on my Dh gloves and used to use for trick sliding. If you can't get any delrin or UHMW then corian is the way to go. Slides nicely and lasts a while.

[Deadaimer]

so u r saying delrin works better than uhmw? i heard that delrin wears way too quickly, im still debating on whether to get delrin or uhmw

As far as trick sliding goes, I haven't found anything that slides better than delrin. Next in line is UHMW which I use on my Dh gloves and used to use for trick sliding. If you can't get any delrin or UHMW then corian is the way to go. Slides nicely and lasts a while.