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    Default Independent Trucks Need Some 21st Century Love

    My old Alva skate has Independent Trucks on it that are now over 30 years old. I’ve been skating it that long and it's about time to replace the bushings .

    I’m not sure what model/generation the trucks are as when I bought them Indies were a new company, so I could use some help identifying them. They hanger measures approximately 4-3/4” between the wheels.

    I’ve not swapped the hanger bushings out so they are original (unless I swapped them out for harder or softer ones back in the day…which is now lost to memory). Under the patina they are a blue-blue/greenish color.

    What options are there for replacement bushings that will fit? Does Indy still make them?
    Are aftermarket replacements any better performing?

    The pivot bushing is white and I might as well replace that also. Any suggestions?

    Please see pics below.

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    Default Re: Independent Trucks Need Some 21st Century Love

    Not sure about the model, but I know those bushings are DEEEEESSSSTRRROOOOYEEED. Bones hardcore bushings are made for indies, and venom eliminator bushings (the old version) fit amazingly. The new venom eliminators are too big now. I think you could probably run double venom cones, or a barrel and cone. But dont quote me. I'm not sure what all bushings are compatible with indies
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    Default Re: Independent Trucks Need Some 21st Century Love

    Any bushings will work. Sand them down if they are too tall. Is that a cupped washer embedded in the roadside bushing?
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    Default Re: Independent Trucks Need Some 21st Century Love

    Thanks for the replies.

    Yes, the washer is cupped.

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    Default Re: Independent Trucks Need Some 21st Century Love

    measure it from axle to axle. and get some bones hardcores or indy bushings, both should work.
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    Default Re: Independent Trucks Need Some 21st Century Love

    Axle is 7.5" measured end-to-end.
    Anyone know what model these are?

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    Default Re: Independent Trucks Need Some 21st Century Love

    sounds like 129s. but they could have had different model names back then.

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    Default Re: Independent Trucks Need Some 21st Century Love

    i LOOOOVE blue bones hardcores in indys.

    some guys say the blues are too soft and blow out, but ive had the same pair on my ditch board for like 5 years, and im usually around 2/210lbs.
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    Default Re: Independent Trucks Need Some 21st Century Love

    bones softs are where its at in stock indys.
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    Default Re: Independent Trucks Need Some 21st Century Love

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovegasoline View Post
    Axle is 7.5" measured end-to-end.
    Anyone know what model these are?
    How wide is the hanger? That's more important.

    Those are probably 109's.

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    Default Re: Independent Trucks Need Some 21st Century Love

    Quote Originally Posted by San Diego Oldschooler View Post
    How wide is the hanger? That's more important.

    Those are probably 109's.

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    Late stage two's probably around 78 or 79.
    They do look like 109's but in the book 109's are 4 1/4"
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    Default Re: Independent Trucks Need Some 21st Century Love

    DAAAAAMN!
    Dem bushins is smooshed!

    I'm almost surprised they haven't completely deteriorated and crumbled to pieces by now..
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    Default Re: Independent Trucks Need Some 21st Century Love

    Hanger width is as depicted in the photo: 4-3/4".

    Yep, the bushings is smooshed but they ain't yet jelly.
    I'm not one to be spoiled by a responsive truck.

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    Default Re: Independent Trucks Need Some 21st Century Love

    Hangers look like stage 1 Indys but the base plates definitely aren't.

    I think these are the freestyle trucks that Indy reissue around when stage 5 were coming out.



    Stage 1 Indys as well as the reissues ran double barrels about the same size as what is out there today.
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    Default Re: Independent Trucks Need Some 21st Century Love

    From 1986.
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    Default Re: Independent Trucks Need Some 21st Century Love

    look like 109s to me, too.

    wheres that indy ID chart??
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    Default Re: Independent Trucks Need Some 21st Century Love

    109s are 101s. Called 109s in stage one, the style was still available with the same hangers up to stage 5. Judging by the baseplates that's what these are, stage 5 101 freestyle/slalom trucks.
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    Default Re: Independent Trucks Need Some 21st Century Love

    They can't be from 1986 unless future time travel was involved.

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    Default Re: Independent Trucks Need Some 21st Century Love

    121 stage 1 indys maybe then. 1978-79 sound right? I thought stage 1 kingpins were cast into the baseplate.

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    Default Re: Independent Trucks Need Some 21st Century Love

    They dont make them like they use to, thats for sure

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