Vintage Old School page 50's and up

[Eddy Martinez]

Here are my old LoganEarthSkis and they are still very functional. Gumby aka Skatebuilt rider Mark Gosser and I rode them at the 2007 Farm Race. Torger Johnson, Road Rider 4's, Bennett Pros. Slalom Model, Bruce Logan 27 inch, Tracker Trucks, Krytonics, Rad Pads. Your Amigo Eddy Texas Outlaws.

[Gary in VA]

Eddy, you know that in Nov when I am in Texas I'm going to come down your way and secure the release of that Torger from you. That was my first ditch deck back in the day in El Paso. Except mine had blue 70mm Kryps on it.

[Bevilacqua]

Wrong.. the Amber slalom is from the same mold as all Krypto "Slaloms" They came in green/white and amber. The truly prized ones were lathed translucent green.. Bobby Piercy gave me 3 sets.. c-62's were a gimme from roller skates

Sorry Ogre, I disagree: Ok there is a classic round shape perfect for quad roller named CR 62. Il looks a lot like "Kryptos"
BUT the early Slalom with no core and the metal ring or washer was later reissued with a core and named CS62 and bigger CS68.
The wheel actually bears only the following mark "C62".



I go mine from Attila, a well known slalomer. - too bad I don't have the bigger C68 (looks a lot like the Turner/3dM Avalon) .

I also have the ad from 1979 featuring the "new" CX and CS wheels:

Same shape, + core.
No Lathe: they are flatbacks.
You are absolutely right in your appreciation of the "collector value" of the early models - but I actually do not collect, but ride all my wheels, so I prefer cored wheels.
The super collectible translucent green are OG Startracs from .... 1975-1976.

[Bevilacqua]

Bevil,

Your description of the USA 70 is dead on, however I stopped skating in 1980, and to the best of my recollection I already owned the wheels. And now that I think of it, there may have been a cored wheel in between the USA 70 and the startrac. It was the cored version of the uncored next gen startrack with a straight line concave and a thinner lip than the ones I have.

Yes, the slalom wheels do have a washer.

Ogre, more info please: Define lathed - was the back cut to create a lip, or was it the rolling surface? And you actually got some wheels from BP himself? Man one of these days I'm going to meet you and then I'll be singing (with apologies to the Dead):

"I shook the hand that shook the hand of B B Piercy and Charlie Chan!"

Where is Mr Peabody and the wayback machine?

Hi TwinTown Skater !
You are right !
There were (at least) 2 models between your superb OG Startrac and the 70 USA. First came in late 1977 the rounded edges of the first "Kryptonics", known among collectors as "2nd gen": metal ring, 60, 65 and 70mm.
Then the core revolution brought the famous C-60/65/70 in 1978... I'll post some old ads later.
Next generation was probably your 70 USA.
Cheers !

[TwinTown Skater]

Actually, I have a set of the orange C-62's and a mixed set of the C-68's in orange and yellow. I'll get a picture up one of these days. What duro does your ad say for the orange" 78 Red, 86 yellow
8? orange? looks like a six but that doesnt make any sense. 80??

Looking at your '79 ad, I would guess that definitively dates the 70 USA to earlier. With the flat backs, they would have been the gen prior the bowl bombers with radiused inside edges.

What are those greenish blue wheels on the wall?

*Edit* I've also got the original packaging for a cored wheel just prior to my 70 USA. I'll include that in my pics as well.

[Bevilacqua]

@Twintown: blue ones are harder C62 - 82A.
All my other C62 are pink.
Disagree with you on the 70 USA, though: 1980 maybe... but not before. They are the evolution of the C70, and came before the modern Classic K 70. Definitely '80's.
edit: I'll post a pic of the 70mm 2nd gen from 1977, and the C60 and C65 (sorry, no C70).

[GriffinSk8]

I have a single new Burgundy soft 65mm big lettering - does this suit you ?

I will need to PM you about it

[Bevilacqua]

I will need to PM you about it

Please do - you are welcome.
It is always a pleasure to help someone who knows the value of things to set up a full set.

[nugpop68]

Any of you guys remember "baby blue" Kryptonics? Were they Star Tracks? I remember them as being super soft fun wheels, but haven't seen any around since around '76.

[Bevilacqua]

Any of you guys remember "baby blue" Kryptonics? Were they Star Tracks? I remember them as being super soft fun wheels, but haven't seen any around since around '76.

you mean these :

[wardlarson]

i love this thread.

[Ogre]

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/m...g?t=1254652397

The Black fullnose has blue c62's on the front and Green "Slaloms" on the back

[nugpop68]

you mean these :

The wheels I'm thinking of were like a powder blue. Those wheels were actually a bit darker than the picture shows. Thanks though. Nice ad.
Edit: Could have been a variation in dye.

[Hot Wheels]

Any of you guys remember "baby blue" Kryptonics? Were they Star Tracks? I remember them as being super soft fun wheels, but haven't seen any around since around '76.

Nug - Hey man hope you are well. I see the blue Krypto's from 1978
on Ebay occasionally (original durometer 86A-88A I believe). They use go for around $50 - $80. The CX 63's
can go for MUCH more.



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[nugpop68]

Nug - Hey man hope you are well. I see the blue Krypto's from 1978
on Ebay occasionally (original durometer 86A-88A I believe). They use go for around $50 - $80. The CX 63's
can go for MUCH more.

Yeah, thanks man. Things are looking up. The Blue 86s are harder than the wheels I'm thinking of. Anyone know what the durometer of the blue star trac(1st gen) was? Pics? This may all just be euphoric recall.

[wardlarson]

looks like they were 80a?

S k a t e b o a r d s- Skateboardzoo.com

[Bevilacqua]

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/m...g?t=1254652397

The Black fullnose has blue c62's on the front and Green "Slaloms" on the back

Gorgeous decks !
IMO the difference between the "C(s)62" and the "slalom" in only the core.
So the "Slalom" should be 1977-1978, and the Cs late 1978.

Baby blues: probably 1st gen of Startracs ... extreeeeeeemely collectable !
Sk8 zoo is THE ultimate reference concerning this period.
And yes, CX 64, 63 and 66 and also very collectable too.(200$/set if NOS)

[nugpop68]

looks like they were 80a?

S k a t e b o a r d s- Skateboardzoo.com

I was starting to think my memories of these wheels were fictitious. My best friend had a set on his G&S Peralta. They were like riding on beautiful little sponges. Cush.

[Hot Wheels]

Nug - I blew the dust off my December 1977 Skateboarder Magazine and did
a little research for ya.

The star trac wheels of this generation came in 60MM 65MM and 70MM.
I personally had a set of the reds in 60MM AMAZING wheels.

Green - 91A
Blue - 86A
Red - 78A

I think that the 70MM appear extra soft because of the thinner flexible lip as
in the picture previously posted. (Unless yours were from a previous generation )


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[Ogre]

Gorgeous decks !
IMO the difference between the "C(s)62" and the "slalom" in only the core.
So the "Slalom" should be 1977-1978, and the Cs late 1978.

Baby blues: probably 1st gen of Startracs ... extreeeeeeemely collectable !
Sk8 zoo is THE ultimate reference concerning this period.
And yes, CX 64, 63 and 66 and also very collectable too.(200$/set if NOS)

Thanks.. I love my Turners, the cutaway is 2 toned.. Red on bottom. Peggy found it under the bed after Bobby's passing.. It is a cherished tribute to his talents.
I wish I could find the Translucent green Lathed Slaloms.. so fun to ride. I'll dig in other boxes