gah!,  Saturday, 07 April 2007 these are great in 83 on the long and straight bombs and sweepers. they also hold speed well through flats.

 gah!,  Saturday, 07 April 2007 fantastic beginner wheel in 78 or 81. they grip fairly well and drifts are very predictable. these are by far one of the best all around wheels ive ridden.

 gah!,  Saturday, 07 April 2007 when i had mine mounted up there was an obvious dead spot with a lot of play without turning, they had a weak return to center, and they would slide out so much in the rear because they turned a lot. these thing would just have a little play in the center before you started your turn, then dive in, then lose traction. getting the hardware on was awkward at best, since a standard skate tool butts up against portions of the baseplate.

if you want to turn a lot, these fit the bill. other then that, i cannot reccomend these.

 DROPPIN KNOWLEDGE,  Monday, 19 March 2007 theyre cheap, theyre good, and theyre fast. (insert yo mama joke here)

 DROPPIN KNOWLEDGE!,  Monday, 19 March 2007 the built in washers/spacer was really convenient. but the easily dentable(thats right, new word) shield was a pain to take care of every time my tool touched it. also, the shield fitted quiet loosely, so it got contaminated very easily.

all in all, these do save you the pain of finding washers and spacers, and installation is quick and easy. but not worth how much maintenance they require.