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    Default Re: Basic Principles of Lamination

    Quote Originally Posted by baudday View Post
    I'm wondering, is it possible to make a drop through board using a jig press? If so, can anyone give some pointers on that?
    you can make a drop throught design with any type of press as far as i know, after the board is pressed print out this template
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    or this one drop thru 2 and stick em on next use the specified drillbit to cut the circles out and jig saw for the rest
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    Default Re: Basic Principles of Lamination

    Sorry, I may be mistaken on what a drop through is. I was wondering if it's possible to make a lowered board like this with a standard clamp press. The angles seem somewhat extreme.

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    Default Re: Basic Principles of Lamination

    That is a drop deck, not drop thru. Yes you can make a drop deck with a clamp style press. Check the Dimm press method.

    However, building a drop board is somewhat advanced, and might be better left for after you've built a couple of boards first. But if you're up for a challenge, go get 'em!
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    Default Re: Basic Principles of Lamination

    See, I am a fairly good woodworker, I just have never done much with lamination.

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    Default Re: Basic Principles of Lamination

    I just watched a video on the dimm press method, and it's pretty much exactly how i was thinking of doing it. I will take a shot at it.

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    Default Re: Basic Principles of Lamination

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    would titebond 3 glue work? or do i have to use epoxy?
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    Default Re: Basic Principles of Lamination

    I've seen a couple of jig presses used to make "Evo" decks with 1/8" BB, like 5 layers. They are somewhere on the Fish, just search. Really it is just a Brodie style press with the proper bends at the end. Certainly doable. Remember, 1/8 BB works with a press, 1/16" maple will not, you would have to vac laminate the layers.
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    Default Re: Basic Principles of Lamination

    A new builder here at Roarockit named Kevin and I have been making a number of full on drop board, using 1/16" maple, a one sided MDF mold all placed in a vacuum bag. The results have been really great. The setup uses a combo vacuum bag / C clamp setup similar to this previous tutorial I did: :: Single-Glue-Up 1″ Drop Deck

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    Default Re: Basic Principles of Lamination

    Quote Originally Posted by Ted View Post
    A new builder here at Roarockit named Kevin and I have been making a number of full on drop board, using 1/16" maple, a one sided MDF mold all placed in a vacuum bag. The results have been really great. The setup uses a combo vacuum bag / C clamp setup similar to this previous tutorial I did: :: Single-Glue-Up 1″ Drop Deck

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    Default Re: Basic Principles of Lamination

    How about good old elmers wood glue?! instead of epoxy.... if not, what and kind, and wheres a genereic place i can find this epoxy!

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    Default Re: Basic Principles of Lamination

    This very thread (recently bumped) contains the information you are looking for. Just start at the beginning and read it.

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    Default Re: Basic Principles of Lamination

    Quote Originally Posted by Lc R View Post
    This very thread (recently bumped) contains the information you are looking for. Just start at the beginning and read it.
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    Default Re: Basic Principles of Lamination

    Use a waterproof wood glue. Personally I use Titebond III. It's a name that comes up a lot, mentioned a few times in this thread. Having never tried Elmer's I can't say for sure. Try it and stomp on it until it breaks, then you'll know.

    This thread has some info on epoxy as well as a link to a supplier. I am looking at some of their medium drying epoxy sitting on my desk right now.

    http://www.silverfishlongboarding.co...-faq-list.html

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    Default Re: Basic Principles of Lamination

    Quote Originally Posted by Lc R View Post
    Use a waterproof wood glue. Personally I use Titebond III. It's a name that comes up a lot, mentioned a few times in this thread. Having never tried Elmer's I can't say for sure. Try it and stomp on it until it breaks, then you'll know.

    This thread has some info on epoxy as well as a link to a supplier. I am looking at some of their medium drying epoxy sitting on my desk right now.

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    sounds good bud, gonna go check that link out now...

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    Default Re: Basic Principles of Lamination

    Quote Originally Posted by baudday View Post
    I'm wondering, is it possible to make a drop through board using a jig press? If so, can anyone give some pointers on that?
    yeah. the press doesnt really have a lot to do with drop mounting a board (just gotta make sure the area around the holes is strong enough because drop mounting a deck puts stress on the surrounding wood). after you have pressed ur board, but before you finish it or sand it (whats id do), cut the holes for the drop mount using a template.

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    Default Re: Basic Principles of Lamination

    Ted, how many plies did you use for that board and how stiff is it?

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    Default Re: Basic Principles of Lamination

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    Default Re: Basic Principles of Lamination

    I found a cheaper Epoxy (Literally found my first 5 litres unused in a builder's skip) and it works great...
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    It's used for grouting industrial concrete including crane rail anchors... I obviously ignore the powder filler that makes it like cement, and the epoxy is nice and runny so its easy to spread with little wastage and a good working time of about 20 minutes . Worked out at €90 for 5 litres instead of €50 for 500ml from the marine resin supplies people!
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